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Dr. Annette Sneevliet – Meeting Point Seminar (WISH) 2014
I want to show you some clips of videos and yes these videos are in Dutch and you can we could have done it yesterday but I think what's more important than viewing, my first telling it, feeling the energy which is in the room at the moment, really something else is starting to talk. I don't know for those who are into this sensation homeopathy, they know this magic moment, when the energy in the room completely changes. There comes a deep silence in the room and then something happens; people Start talking nonsense and where they get it from, I don't know. Just like dear Rajan yesterday said, where did you get those a.ha… play aesthetic and tell you exactly what is going on.
So I am going to start the case I wanted to show you yesterday. Again a woman who can't cope with criticism and is doing all kinds of rituals (We have to stand this side) all kinds of rituals, controlling all her act because otherwise she feels completely afraid making mistakes. So I want to show you a part of this video. And you see a little bit less
She is making one movement all the time. Then she is telling me about I cannot talk,
I withdraw, she is doing this. (Speaker showing the gesture patient makes – crouches forward) And for me the language of the body, which resembles really one to one; the energy of the remedy and times even the talk of the remedy is in this. So I try to keep her at the level of her movements of her body.
Sensation level always is in the body, it's not somewhere else. It's really the physical experience in the body.
So let's see what's she is doing? As you see how it's difficult for her to go in that. You get a kind of pause. It's difficult she says. And she is doing this you know, it's the same (Speaker showing a gesture- crouching again like patient). She is doing this and you get this pause. It's like trying to make myself out of danger. Do this movement and look what's coming up. I do this (Speaker showing a gesture- crouching) and then I want to go away. You see, I do this and also want to go away. For me the fact that she says,
I want to go away is not the most important part but that she does it together with this hand gesture; this is her body language, otherwise it could be anything, you know.
She says it's this (crouching) and I want to get away. I want to go away from the situation. Describe a little bit more, go into it. If this is (Crouching) then I put my shells around me. Where does this come from? Saying like, else you would say, my shells come up, I want to go away somewhere inside those shells. But she is making these movements. (crouching) I want to go into the shells and she makes this. Hear what she is doing. It's kind of a covering her hands around like a shell) shell or something around me. It's kind of shell or something which protects me. You see how is she doing it.
I want to be closed. Tell me a little bit more? There is something around you? It's around my head. (Hand gesture around the head) Then I don't have to look at anybody. Just describe this around you. I don't go into, she says. Then I don't have to look to anybody because their hands weren't moving that much. It's this she is doing and there was the energy of the memory.
Can you talk a little bit more? Can you see this is not called the fantasy These are two curved kind of things, she says. Where does this come from? These kind of shells who fit together completely well. Where does it come from who fit together completely well? And she is making this movement (Speaker showing gesture- one hand closing on another like a shell) Really, interesting.
I am there inside, safe and I leave a little bit open so I can look outside if it's not dangerous. Where does it come from? And look the pauses in between which mean she is not talking out of her head. She is talking from somewhere. And when she is tells something of the substance, you see the hands coming (The shell gesture).
Nothing can go inside in this shell and I can get out a little bit if I want. Hear we heard the same words yesterday it was a beautiful case of Jonathan Hardy. I am safe inside and nothing can go out. And she is going even further. Two bowl like these shells who fit together and there is a little place where I can look through. Look in the book of the mollusc, you will find it. You can see it.
Then I can see things. I couldn't bear that it would close completely because then
I would be……..I couldn't look if there was danger. I have to see what's going around me. I feel this movement (Gesture as if the shell is closing). It fits very well together and it has rippled. What is it called; rib bled? Where it's coming from? It's rippled. Look in your books. Look in the mollusc and see.
Yesterday, we had Venus Mercenaria, where here a bivalve. We hear animal kingdom, we hear bivalve. And in the Bivalve yesterday, we had this Venus Mercenaria which is not rippled. So we have to have a bivalve which is rippled. She……I don't know where she…. afterwards I asked her, she says, I don't what I have been talking about. I never would have thought of it before.
It fits well. She is even going further. Crazy! When you hear, every time I get how you say it. That I think how is it possible, people tell you this? Go into this state? This is after half an hour of consultation. We went down deeper and deeper and deeper; more silence came and then this happened.
I don't know why, but I have to cry now. I don't know why I get emotional now. She is connecting with her deepest source. Go into what you say. You say, this is a two things who fit together with rippled ends. Go and look if there is something more coming. Then you see pauses again. Then somebody is talking fantasies is going quick. At the back, it is closed but in the front it can open. On the front side there is this little path which is open but the back is closed completely.
She is even going further. Hear it. I was stunned. The best would be when the shell would be buried into sand. Look, what she said? Then, this shell would be a little bit more protective. Can you imagine people telling you this? So for me, I think, this is the most beautiful part of this thing. What do we have? We have animal kingdom. Why do we have animal kingdom? Because, we see a survival strategy shown by her hands; hiding protecting, can go away, two shells, rippled, fit well, little open, see the danger and to know what's going on in the sand?
And when she would have told me all these words without her hands, I would not be interested. Then it would be may be her fantasy. But her whole life is about that. When she is criticised, she is going like this (crouching); it's her life.
So we have the mollusc. And then you have to question; uni-valve, bivalve, the cephalopodes. We have heard, it's so clear; we have to have a bivalve, can't be anything else.
So let's go and look at them. A Pecten Jacobaeus is the bivalve who can swim away. It can't be a mussel who is stuck somewhere on a walk because she says I can get away. So this has to be included in the remedy. Half opened Rippled shell lying in the sand. Look in your mollusc book. Everything you will read. What does Pecten Jacobaeus when is in danger going like this and he swims away. It can get away. It can move.
So when we look in the Materia Medica, it's not so much for Pecten Jacobaeus in our repertory. The only thing that it's known for asthma. As a child she has asthma. When
I want to prescribe a remedy, when I have found it on the sensation level, I want to confirm that something fits from the physicals. When we don't have any proving, you can't. But when we have a proving something has to be there. When Pecten Jacobaeus wouldn't have been anything without asthma, I would be frightened a little bit.
I want to be grounded in my repertory, and in my Materia Medica.
So what's interesting Massimo, when I would see this case at the time I didn't do sensation method, I would go to the sea remedies. Why? Because, what's she is telling is distance. What is she doing is distance? There is a kind of immaturity. How she handles a situation? Just close and wait till it's over. Needs this safe environment. Holding this grudge when she has a fight with her husband, she doesn’t talk for 2-3 weeks; shell closed nothing going on anymore.
Water, she has very, very deep connection to the sea. I didn't know at that moment but she tells me that's my biotope.
So from this, I would go to the sea remedies when I would look at a human level how the human who needs Pecten Jacobaeus would express it at human level. But here, we heard really the remedy talk itself. So that the beauty of it.
And before Massimo, I would have probably given her Calcium Carbonicum because she is a Calcium Carbonicum like person. And I am sure Calcium Carbonicum would have done good for her. And that's happily homeopathy that many remedies do good to us but we have this one special remedy which really is our “program”. And when we can see that and give that, you really get big, big changes.
So look at her in the follow up. Just look at her, you know, like this. (Speaker showing the gesture of the patient – Hands moving from inside to out as if opening). It's going very well. And when she…… I don't want let it go very long because, I have fixed a time. She is telling, I am open now. I can stand criticism. I don't close my shell anymore. I can just relate and talk to people and just make a good. She doesn't has to control all the time. She doesn't have these OCD things anymore. And then she said, now I know my husband is not the real good one for me and she decided to divorce. She is in middle of the divorce and she says I am as happy as never been. Can you imagine?
Just to show you how it is when the remedy itself talks.
Let's go to another case
The man 28 years old, very, very severe pathology. He has been in and out of psychiatry, for many years on psychotic drugs and he says I have bad thoughts.
I cannot stop them. I always think about murdering somebody, about doing something sexual to somebody, especially to those who I like and I am not trustworthy.
Let's look at him. Tell me a little bit. I always have very bad thoughts. What's the first thing you see? Look at his beautiful T-shirt with this skeleton on. Don't think all we have this T-shirt, so I have to get something which is related to that but just see it.
For me the most important thing during an interview is looking at people's hands. Not so I, I am so interested in hands and also I think Italian people will do it Massimo? And it's not that they move their hands but when the hands always move at the same way and when these hands are connected with this little stupid words, we normally don't write down because they are not so interesting for the history, for the whole story.
But look what is he doing? And look what his hand is doing all the time like this (Speaker showing hand gesture of the patient – beak formation with hand), when he is talking about his bad thoughts.
Tell me a little bit more about these talks. I always think about murder, sexual things, hurt other people especially those who I like. And this goes on and on he says. Let's go a little bit further. He says, I am a psychopath. I always have…… when I don't have this killing things to others, I have thoughts of suicide to myself. I really have this urge to harm somebody and it's already there from my 12th.
I explored what had happened before 12th? I couldn't find anything. He didn't talk about it, that he has been harassed a lot during y0outh, okay. But it's such a deep pathology what he is telling us. And then he says, when I have these thoughts, then I went into Buddhism and into karma thought. Where is Buddhism and karma coming from?
He says, because I am afraid of the consequences; what will happen after this? Will
I go to hell? I have the advantages, I believe in Buddhism instead of Hindu because then my karma will be better because with Hindu, I wouldn't have a chance and then I would come in next life like I don't know what. But now I am into witchcraft to find a solution for me. So I try to figure out what's, what's he really wanted to tell us. Like Jeremy Sherr says, what is the real? How can you put the whole thing in 5 to 6 words? But let's have a little bit more.
What are your impulses? He says, to step down people, to do sexual things like take a hammer and hitting somebody on the head or cutting somebody's throat. Let's look at the video. I would like to strap somebody. I would want to do sexual things to others, with the hammer somebody hurting on his head. When I see it on the television, I can't stand it. I am afraid. Then I think about killing myself by putting my car against the wall. With a gun shoot somebody.
You see, all kinds of things, he is telling us. And when I look at him, I don't know if you have the same, then I look, then I see a kind of guy we have seen in Scandinavia who were phrrr…. killed; all these people on this island. And look what is he telling? Now it's getting interesting. We go a little bit deeper and he is doing kind of gestures all the time and look at it.
He is doing this all the time (Speaker showing gesture- rapid hand movements like rolling) or he is doing this (Speaker showing gesture – hand beak gesture). He is doing this or this. (Rapid hand movements like spindling and the hand beak gesture). All the time during the whole interview, I can tell you.
There is kind of urge to do these things. It's a kind of funny feeling. It's a kind of funny feeling who shoots up. That's interesting. He is doing like this. I want to kill, I want this,
I want that. It's kind of funny feeling which shoots up.
The fact what he is doing, I think everybody of us can see already Issues of the animal kingdom. But be careful. The desire to kill; when you see this rubric; you see plants, you see minerals, you see animals; all kinds of things. On the human level killing; it could be anything. But look at his hands. And what kind of story, what kind of energy, tells us, with his hands; when we see this (Spindling action) and this (Hand beak gesture) and something is shooting up. So, we see, with his hands, and he does this the whole interview; it's not only bundle apart, it's all over the case.
So he looked, what we see is a kinds of pauses again like this. When he is talking actually about Buddhism, he is always doing this (Speaker showing gesture of the patient – cycling movement with hand). And when he is talking about witchcraft he is doing this (spindling gesture) and when he is talking about killing he is doing this (hand beak gesture). So I tried to understand the language of his body. Let's go little further. It would be, it's a pleasure to do these things. It's an urge and this urge gives me this pleasure. These are the dangerous ones. Because doing it will gives pleasure. And pleasure is our biggest drive in life.
I try to get to know you as good as possible, so please tell me a little bit more. You say, he says it's the kind of power. I have to kill somebody. And it's something is here and is coming up. Can you tell a little bit more? It's a strange feeling which goes up. I don't know how to describe it. You describe it very well.
Look you can see it. It's a kind of tension and he is doing this movement. (spindling hand gesture). When he is talking about Buddhism, he does the same movement. When he is talking about all kinds of things which calms him, he does this (rolling his hand) and there is this strange feeling like this. Yeah, I don't know how to say. Something is shooting up. It is not tingling, it's not in my back, it's… I don't know how to……..It's like you have when you get frightened, it's like this (Startled gesture) he says. It's the same. Look, you get frightened and then you like it. Instead of not liking it, you like it. And it's doing this.
Describe a little bit more, this feeling of power? You have and then the hands go again (rolling). You have the power, over somebody else's life. That feels very exciting. When I do it then somebody doesn't know I am after him. Hear what we hear; then
I don't know, then they don't know; I am after them. Which remedy?
I think, we all agree, we are in the animal kingdom. Why? Because, we have searched 3-4 movements who tell the process of kind of survival and kind of way to live; it's like this; rolling in, this (startled) and this (Hand beak); all the time. So I think you all agree, we are in the animal kingdom. And when we are in the animal kingdom, I think for most of us, it will be clear that we are in the snakes.
What does a snake…. either it rolls itself in when it is not going to attack or it shoots up and does something. I have so many snake cases who all tell me something here (Pointing the lower abdomen) which shoots up and then it explodes. It's really interesting. When snake remedy tell, they are angry; I think I have 4 or 5 people who will say and then I get angry and do this ( snakes hood) or when I go to work (zigzag moving forward gesture)…… Who does this? I go to work (Zigzag moving forward),
I calm down (rolling).
It's when you, it's like Columbus, when ship comes, the Indians couldn't see the ship because they weren't trained to see that there could come something from the sea. And then the magician who was living with him said; he started to feel something is coming and then he could show them what's there.
And these hand gesture are always in all my case. I Video recorded 30 years of video, first cases. And when I look to all my snake cases they did these hand gestures but
I never saw them because I wasn't…….. I would say aware to see them and it's really interesting. I have one case. I gave this man hundreds of remedies. I didn't know which remedy. Very nice, sweet man. And I give him Staphysagria and whatever then he started…. when I started getting aware of these hand gesture, when I go to my camping place and I scan the whole area to see where the energy is best to put my caravan. (Speaker showing hand gesture of the patient – moving his hand like a snake). And then I could see all the other things of the snake.
What he is telling here, he is telling, when I have the power. I have the power that I can decide if you will live or die. And the most beautiful part of it, they don't know. It's this hiding manipulating energy, we know from snake. Hiding;
You know this beautiful picture; there is a mouse running up and down trail and the snake is lying there and the mouse is walking. Every time the mouse is gone, the snake goes and smells it and goes back. And then the mouse starts walking this trail very much long time until he thinks this trail is safe and then thuk.. (snap) the snake takes it.
It's a hidden attack. It's not an open attack. So that's the reason why it never could be anything like Stramonium or whatever kinds of remedies we also know, for killing or whatever. It's a hidden attack, you know. Look little bit more then we go into the next case.
It's a feeling; I am in charge if you will live or die. This gives me excitement. I start trembling from this excitement. This is the whole case and then he starts talking about Buddhism and does this (rolling gesture) What is Buddhism? He tries to calm himself down. And these two parts, Massimo, you talked a lot about this; this duality we see in snakes; wanting to kill somebody and on the other side being into religious things. It's very common for snakes. They want to explore everything; the dark and the light.
So due to his hands, it wasn't that difficult to find his remedy or at least I wasn't lost in all kinds of remedies. The hands help me a lot to discriminate where I am.
So let's go. Dream of sexuality. Then he starts telling me how nice it would be to rape a woman. It was really amazing. And he says I am feeling this excitement come up.
Dreams of sexuality, so animal kingdom. I don't know if you saw it. His father was sitting next to him. He was allowed to go out of psychiatry, then his father would take care of him. So his father went with him everywhere because this guy is a ticking bomb
So animal kingdom, like snakes; hidden thoughts, planning, power, the snake hand gesture; this, up and this ( Rolling, startled and snake hood moving respectively). Look at your cases. You will see it, It's so interesting.
So when we look into repertory and go for snakes and that will bring all this. What is he
doing? It's almost as if he is magnetising me with all these bad thoughts.
What I learnt from Massimo is look how a snake seduces you. Every snake has its own way to seducing you. He is seducing me with all these extreme bad thoughts. So the remedy which has this the most is Crotalus. Cascavella. That's what I gave him. And the themes of Massimo, this duality between religion and one thing to rape and kill somebody. It's really something special. Crotalus Cascavella is the remedy who is talking about hell, hypnotising you with all kinds of strange things. And look at his t-shirt.
So after follow ups his thoughts even after 6 weeks, his thoughts were 90% less. When I have little bit stress then they come. More confident. Can be with other people. Don't need this power anymore. Can you imagine?
Let's see a little bit. These difficult thoughts….. I have to tell you. 5 days before this consultation, he had an accident. Somebody hit him with a car. Little accident not really big but then the thoughts came up a little bit more and afterwards they went on again. And then the most beautiful part I have to take another video of him because he is doing really, really amazingly well. All the psychopharmaca have been stopped. The psychiatrist called me and said what did you do with this guy? Can I send you patients?
You know and the first thing what was really striking me was, which I was really happy about, he started to be angry with his brother in the open. So he started to express anger in a normal way and that's so healthy for him. He started to work. He found friends through Internet. He is doing lots of things. He's going really well. So how to see remedies like this?
So I want to go to another; case quick case if I am allowed. No?
It's a case of a woman who says I am disgusting. It's really interesting from yesterday, from the leprous miasm.
That's the first thing you think about her. As he says, the first thing which is really striking is that she has a very bad smell about her and I couldn't know which kind of smell it is. It was a kind of the putrid smell. It wasn't sweat or something and
I didn’t know what it was?
She weeps a lot. Lots of stress, anxieties. And I will show you a little bit of the video. Just want to show you a little bit.
Her case all the time. How feels your bother. She says, everything stand still. Her OK. She starts telling, I live here and there is not enough oxygen in my body.( Speaker showing gesture of the patient) This movement and this she is doing all the time; not enough oxygen in the body. And then she starts telling, it's like this in my body.
Nothing is normal, everything feels hot. It's not relaxed. It cannot flow, it cannot flow. All the time, she is talking about pain in her stomach or lump in the throat, she says, it's blocked and it cannot flow. It's blocked and it cannot flow. When she talk about the depression, she says, it's like everything stand still. Who tells you in depression like everything stand still and it cannot flow? And she always made those two movements all the time. Everywhere in the case, you have the same movements.
So for me, we have here, the plant kingdom. Agree? Plant kingdom means one sensation with the hands and the opposite. One sensation with all kinds of synonymous and the hands with the same synonymous. With her it's stuck, and no flow and stays it and it doesn't flow.
So for the people who know sensation method, know this is crucifer. Crucifer the plant of the cabbage family has this sensation. Have this block, cannot pass, cannot go through and when she tells these things, she uses her hands, no flow. I feel compartments and these compartments, it cannot flow. Everything is about the same and when you see that, when it is general in the whole case then we can be very, very happy.
So my whole life is about being blocked. My whole life is like this. It has to flow again. So we see, plant kingdom; blocked versus free flow. So we know, it is must be a plant and it must be cruciferae. I can't show you the place where she tells you about this. She says, it's like instinct reflex, I feel every moment the bomb can fall, something terrible can happen; like a child, like acute miasm.
We have the sensation and the sensation is lift in an acute way. So when we look in our system with what we learnt, we see that the remedy is Lepidium; this is Cruciferae, acute miasm. When we look into the repertory and this is the repetorisation after this,
I wouldn't have found Lepidium, never ever in my whole life through Materia Medica.
You can see that all her real symptoms which are reliable symptoms never lie, are Lepidium. She has worms, she has constriction, oppression when eating; everything is Lepidium. So interestingly is Crucifer are the cabbage family, lot to do with the nutritional problems.
And one of the things, you see, in all these remedies which run through, 4 remedies have offensiveness. You know what happens when you leave cabbage for 2 days, how it stinks? And this was the exactly the odour or something what you smell with her. Which is really interesting that I wanted to tell you this.
This plant family is in the subclass of Yakir's system in the 4th sub-class. What is the
4th subclass? The nutrition line? They are here, the Capparales. What's interesting is the whole line is about nutrition. Her problems are her own nutritional system.
The pathology of the digestive system.
And now we understand, I didn't tell you the whole story, she told me my mother never touched me. She even wasn't possible for her to lie down with a therapist to get a massage because then somebody had to touch her body. She couldn't wear a bikini or swimming suit because she had a terrible disgust of her body. Mother didn't touch me.
And when we look back the Capparales that are here, in the end at the old age this often looks like leprosy. Look like. It's like when you look in our Materia or in the how you say, in the periodic table at the end Muriaticum like.
So everything comes together, from all edges you come to the same conclusion. But sensation helped me the most. So the follow up, I don't want to show you because of time problems.
All her problems are gone. Digestive problems within 3 weeks gone. She is wearing her bikini now. She can be in the open. She feels loved. She changes her whole life. This is what happens when we see the right remedy.
So I am really happy to have all these systems combined. And what is really interesting. I wanted to show even more but I want to stop with one little thing is this one. Show you one little clip and then I stop.
To honour my first teacher Alfons Geukens
I saw this man. This man has a problem with his heart. De compensated, he couldn't breathe normally. You almost can feel that he has little bit bluish colour on the face. I don't know if you can see that well. He was puffing and couldn't breathe well. And he was sitting in front of me like this (Speaker making a gesture- siting with arms across chest). Then his belly, you saw a part of his belly. He was smelling, how you say it, you could smell that he didn't shower for a long time. And he starts telling me, his problem is this heart problem, started when his……..when he fell in love with another woman. And this was the theme of his life.
Every time, after 8-10 years of relationship, he fell in love with another woman. And his problem, he thought was how to make a choice. But when you through the whole analysis, what was? Actually he wanted to have both; he wanted to have this woman and that woman.
Everything was about ego; about I want. And when you do the whole case,
Alfons Geukens would have come in, would open the door and would say Sulphur; close the door. Because, everything is Sulphur. His fear of heights even as a child, warm feet, putting in the mouth and so on and on.
And when you show such a case and do this case through sensation method, people start wondering can I give Sulphur? But when you hear his whole case, everything is about period free. It's about making choices, it's about relationships, about warmth, about his ego in comparison to others ego; the development of his ego.
So when you see this case, for me after 5 minutes, it was a live case during a seminar. After 5 minutes, it was clear cut Sulphur because I know this remedy like my… I don't know how to say to it. But I got to know this remedy in all kinds of race.
But when you go systematically you come to mineral kingdom. The whole time he talks his hands are like this. (Speaker showing gesture of the patient – Both hands held together). His hands don't talk. The substance has no speech with the hands. And when you go on, you see all kinds of things of mineral kingdom, period 3. And then you go on and you see at the end, it must be this stage Sulphur
So I gave him Sulphur and within half an hour, he started breathing easier. Next day he said, I took a shower. But look how his problem…… Somebody told me you need the snake because you can't choose. Somebody say these three triangle relationships, then you need Anacardium. But his problem was, I want everything.
This ego and this where I want to stop and thank all our teachers and I really want to especially thank Alfons Geukens who died but gave me my basics so I could built-up.